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Your brother. but at one point in that clip jeb said, i don't understand why he's doing this. i'll tell you why he's doing it, to get under your skin. and it seems to be working. >> it doesn't necessarily move the ball forward, does it? it just acts as an irritant. >> that's exactly right. and as i said, following the trump formula. but i noticed something different about trump who is admired for his chutzpah and just saying what's on his mind and being a truth teller or so his supporters say. he just said i'm not blaming bush for 9/11 but it wouldn't have happened if i were president. that's ...

And then you get angry, very angry, that we're not moving this ball forward, that we're not changing things at a national level. we certainly are at a state level, but not at a national level. >> lonnie, when you hear the conversation, the president says he anticipates being criticized for being "political" right as we're still digesting the investigation here. but when you hear that criticism, what's your response, given that your daughter was taken in one of these mass shootings that's listed in the numbers we've just cited? >> it is political. it is absolutely political. it's been political...

What the pope also has been saying and reminding congress and various audiences is work together, in the wrath in washington, much of our political system in this country, much of the world is people are not working together. do you agree with that? if you ever became president, how would you heed that advice? >> neil, first of all, thank you for having me. look, i saw where boehner stepped aside today and my message to mitch mcconnell is if he's not willing to fight for your principles, it's time no follow the speaker's lead and step aside as well. we need republicans that will fight just as ...

Systems in place that are supposed to be work inging, so they don't have anything to do. so they see opportunity and they get involved in the right way. this is not representative of most kids in baltimore and certainly not the adults in the community. >> we understand that the gray family is watching this play out on tv in realtime on what is perhaps the worst possible day of their lives. >> they're brokenhearted by this development. they don't want violence. they know violence is not the answer to freddie's legacy. they know that this is not going to push the ball forward, so that we can hav...

Washington? most importantly, what good does it do for americans who want washington to work over the next two and a half years? i'm not saying it wasn't a good speech, but as far as getting things done, moving the ball forward, how does this move both sides together at all? what does it do? >> it's what the president does behind the scenes and i will say there have been times we felt like he hasn't reached out enough. we have even asked him about it. the point you made earlier about the point saying the president saying we won. around the same time, the top republicans said our sole function ...