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Success the u.s. had in bringing sunnis on board who had previously supported al qaeda, even if their success on the battlefield, the resentment, the hate will remain. >> anderson, you're exactly right. if we're not able and the iraqis are not able to affect the conditions that led to the rise of isil, once it's defeated, it won't stay defeated. you will have isil 2.0. that comes to politics, economics, finding some kind of accommodation that makes sunnis believe they have a future within iraq. that's vitally important. that's where diplomacy comes in. even when we succeed on the battlefield, ...

Got to be a political solution in iraq so that the last prime minister who frittered away the success the u.s. had in bringing sunnis on board who ahad previously supported al qaeda, even if their success on the battlefield, the resentment, the hate will remain. >> you are right. if we're not able and the iraqis are not able to affect the conditions that led to the rise of isil, once it's defeated, it won't stay defeated. you will have isil 2.0. that comes to politics, economics, finding some kind of accommodation that makes sunnis believe they have a future within iraq. that's important. that...