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Is it shows a degree of risk on the part of china that they would fly these so close across us territory and it's a risky venture in their answers have been very lacking. do you think politically, it signifies that they are thinking of taking more bold action there's been a lot of concern around taiwan and what is a telus? that they are doing this evenif a telus? that they are doing this even if there is one spy balloon? they have the capabilities, their satellite technologies that they could use the chosen to use this balloon technology. it is of dual use nature and is part of their technolog...

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And not being truthful on the world stage and for them to tell us it's a weather balloon, it fits into the narrative we cannot trust the ccp what they're telling us and why this select committee on china is so important. neil: we've already black listed, i think, half a dozen chinese largely tech firms, congressman, that might have something to do with this balloon technology. that list will likely go on as these boycotts back and forth go on. do you think this could get out of control? the military response notwithstanding, that the two biggest economic powers on earth could hurt each other? ...

Not to go to beijing, i view this differently. i think he probably should have gone to beijing to keep those lines of communications open. that's exactly what you have to have in circumstances like this. you cannot shut down when the narrative is this is ratcheting up. we can't allow that to happen. look, i would say that when you look at this balloon technology, look, i've launched balloons with different sensors on the bottom of them when i've in different places around the globe. it's an effective collection platform. so for the united states to look at this and say it's a balloon, it's no ...

Intelligence sources what the host government was thinking about our administration's policy, and in this case i'm sure we'll get reflection froms xi jinping and others to the extent it was not just a public relations victory but more of a message. china mounts incursions of other nation's air space, look what they do to taiwan, and they are trying to normalize this, and it's a probe of our air defenses and they succeeded. >> gillian: this interested me, some experts have told fox that worrying about balloon technology in the age of the very advanced satellites is really silly but other source...