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Fault here, wolf. at some point, you have to tell the russians that they're not free to act however they want to, whether it be in ukraine or pressures on the baltic countries or moving in antiaircraft artillery and missiles. by the way, isis has no air force. and act with impunity. there has to be a point where we say, look, here's -- we've got to protect these people, we've got to stop the barrel bombing, and you've got to stop it, russia. >> so, you're saying that the u.s. should potentially, potentially could go to war with russia -- >> no, i'm not -- >> -- over what's going on in syria. >...

If mr. putin was to try and intimidate those countries that are nato members, i think you would see some different approaches by the united states in terms of what we're doing. right now we're partnering with several countries to help the ukrainian military improve. >> so final question, the u.s. has already imposed sanctions on russia. what else should it do? >> i think what you're seeing is there is an increased emphasis on putting forces and the potential for forces in eastern europe. that's happening. there's an exercise right now called atlantic resolve where we have several european forc...

Intentions are partly known and partly unknown. that's what's most disconcerting. we're not really sure what he's looking for. but we do know, because he said this, he feels threatened, he feels threatened by nato and what the west's moves are. he wants to return to the age of having a great influence for russia similar to the old soviet union. >> as far as a direct threat to the united states, what might that be? >> what we're seeing in ukraine right now is very dangerous. they are not an ally, but a partner. should russia decide to do things in other countries that in fact are nato allies --...

Against russia are our only means of threatening them back. i think we have seen some military actions in the last few weeks, where both the u.s. army in europe and u.s. air force in europe has spread their wings a little bit more by conducting operations especially in countries along a russian border the baltic countries in poland and all these easter european countries have seen this happen before with russia and they're not all that fired up about having this kind of action by their neighbors to the east continue. >> general, thanks so much. appreciate it. all right, well it may be rather...

Draw the line. we're waiting for tougher sanctions from the eu. thus far, it's just individuals. who draws the line? >> just targeting individuals is not going to do it here. i think what the u.s. has done is a step in the right direction. i think what europeans can realistically do and it's doable and it's necessary and they will have to do it sooner or later. the problem is, they actually do it later rather than sooner and that always raises the cost. but the reality is that whether we've been worrying about georgia, they should have stopped georgia then crimea wouldn't have happened. crimea...