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You got real close, after the first debate. but you have never had a lead, not once and the on, 'bama margin has grown slightly recently. >> well, only one number will matter and that's the one on election day. we are confident that governor romney will prevail. the subpoint, when you look at the public polls, 24 or 25, in 21 of them, governor romney is leading with independents and not by a small margin, but double digits. anyone involved with ohio politics will tell you, the candidate who wins independents in ohio will win the ohio election. we are very confident about the race there. when y...

>> well, let's not forget, chris, reliably republican, barack obama won both in 2008. so if you look at the absentee ballot numbers in florida, the democrats in 2008 had a 370,000 vote margin, cut down to 70,000 votes right now. we will win on election day by a significant margin. florida, you want to make sure it's taken care of. i don't know why they are spenning money there. governor romney wants to take another swing. virginia will be a close state. tell come dun to the end. when you look at the early results out of absentee ballots in democrat counties, versus republican, this is the case...

Election day, which is what they traditionally do, they are going to win ohio and you are going to lose. >> we will 99 two days who is bluffing and who is not bluffing. the fact is, if you look at every poll in ohio, we have been ahead even or ahead in virtually every one, the latest came out this morning in the columbus dispatch. one thing that is clear, we have a very, very large lead among voters who have voted early. we are going to go into election day with a significant lead. and so, you know, we -- they can spin it any way they want. i am looking at cold, hard data, who is showing up, w...

Florida. your reaction? >> well, desperate four years ago, this weekend, president obamma was campaigning in indiana. today, governor romney is campaigning in pennsylvania. i don't think campaigning in states where we haven't won since 1988, 1984 and 1972 are exactly acts of desperation. it looks like the map is starting to expand drastically in our favor. it is nothing we are doing. it's governor romney's message. when you talk about florida. for them to spend more money there is a little bit like barack obama's government -- they want to throw money at a problem and hope it if i cans it. but...

Tie. according to the real clear politics average, i think it's a 4-point margin for obama? >> last night, there was a poll that came out that was 47-47. again, president obama well under 50 in a state that he should be well over 50. there is a million more democrats in pennsylvania than there are republicans. and it's important to remember that energy is a very important issue in the state of pennsylvania. in 2008, in the democratic primary, hillary clinton beat barack obama by double digits after barack obama was the presumptive nominee for his party. so pennsylvania is very fertile ground f...