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They should be taking this seriously. do you as well see that at this stage the clinton campaign should be worried about how much donald trump has been able to narrow that gap? and we're still months away from any actual voting but should they be at least concerned? >> i've always been wone to believe that when it is early out you can't make definitive conclusions. there are signs you can glean from and adjust your strategy based on your campaign. so i do think former senator clinton should be looking at some of these trends and i don't think she should be worried so much about donald trump as...

Important. but on the broader issue of iran and syria, i would only say, you know, as a strategist to a strategist foreign policy people in this field, legitimate differences of view on what the terms of engagement is and how do you get a nation like moammar gadhafi to give up a nuclear weapons program? how do you move syria before we knew what the arab spring might do. so, i would say those calculations are some of the things that hagel is willing to buck a band wagon effect for. >> i have a final question that is separate for both of you. if you could respond directly to the question. dan, i...

They are trying to hedge bets against possible losses and other key battle ground states. lots of spinning on both sides. each campaign trying to create a band wagon effect by putting their best picture forward. >> we were together on friday night west chester ohio southwestern corner of the state. campaign said they had 30,000 plus in the field next to the high school there. what you noted at the time was the changing tone in the words in the final 48, 72-hours from governor romney's pitch. explain that to the audience how he is trying to cloels that deal with the statement coming a little di...

Substantial sample. this is the ballot. and you think this is a straw poll and it doesn't matter but it is a big deal. delegates have to show i.d.s with the hologram colors to make sure one person for every vote and if not it won't be counted. school of thought is sarah palin who dazzles republicans wherever she goes has advantage in the straw poll but you can never rule out texas congressman ron paul, who brings with him a contingent to events like this that can really get the crowd roaring on his behalf and sometimes have a band wagon effect in votes like this. however, it's not as importanc...