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It's to create a bandwagon effect that romney is a goner. >> rick: do you agree with him that we're going to hear tightening of the race and that is because the media wants to generated ratings or because there is a guilt on the mainstream media, maybe we should be covering this a little more fairly than we have bon been. you are shaking your head no? >> i do think media polls can be a little skewed. i have a friend that used to do it. ding, it's been cooked and here is what you wanted. the thing is, there is bias but it's evenly split. some are weighted towards republicans and some are weight...

We see is in iowa, which is a very difficult polling environment, so few people participate in the caucuses that the polls really told a very solid narrative about the rises -- the rise and decline of all these different candidates finally ending in a photo finish for santorum surging. so i think the polls have been very successful so far. keep our fingers crossed as we go into new hampshire. >> polling the first time after we have had one contest. john huntsman, maybe wishful thinking, people in new hampshire don't care about what iowans did. is that true or all right santorum momentum carry ...

Environment, so few people participate in the caucuses that the polls really told a very solid narrative about the rises -- the rise and decline of all these different candidates finally ending in a photo finish for santorum surging. so i think the polls have been very successful so far. keep our fingers crossed as we go into new hampshire. >> polling the first time after we have had one contest. john huntsman, maybe wishful thinking, people in new hampshire don't care about what iowans did. is that true or all right santorum momentum carry over? i guess the question is there a kind of bandwag...

Guys, let me fin the conversation that chris and i were having about this "des moines register" poll. 41% of people have a candidate but could be persuaded to vote for someone else. steve, what's going to persuade them? >> well, the bandwagon effect has a big role to play in the last few days as people see, for example, with rick santorum, the biggest criticism people had of him is he couldn't win. now they believe he can win, they're jumping on board. as i talk to people over the weekend, i saw a lot of people moving toward rick santorum and a lot of people moving toward mitt romney. i think ...

Steve grubs. former iowa campaign chairman for herman cain. steve, good morning to you out there in des moines s this normal or is this an abnormal year, do you think? >> definitely an abnormal year. i've never seen this many undecideds going into the final attorney. the person who does the polling for "des moines register" says the same thing. this is the point where the bandwagon effect makes a difference. bill: why do you think it is that way? >> it has been an unusual year. first of all the had the candidates rise and their critics whether their opponents or in the media have brought out t...