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Take a judges order, and submit it in evidence, in a criminal trial against anybody. a federal prosecutor cannot call the judge as a witness. the judge has no firsthand knowledge. so, it is it interesting? is it compelling? yes, but it is not evidence. therefore, i don't think it materially changes the justice department -- department of justice views the case. they already understand their theory. the prosecutors understand what the judge understands. if they want to charge somebody with trying to obstruct congress, they need admissible evidence. and in that order, he did. >> the committee me...

Therefore, i don't think it materially changes the justice department -- department of justice views the case. they already understand their theory. the prosecutors understand what the judge understands. if they want to charge somebody with trying to obstruct congress, they need admissible evidence. and in that order, he did. >> the committee met tonight to discuss bringing in janai thomas, after her text messages, were publicly, revealed. of course, this is the wife of supreme court justice, clarence thomas. they haven't made a decision on that yet. what is the holdup? why wouldn't a? they do...

Key committee, thank you for being with us today. >> thank you. let's bring in nbc justice correspondent pete paems williams and more. pete, you were just leading allow the d.c. attorney's case. what is the legal impact of that, do you think? >> it's another lawsuit against the proud boys and oath keepers saying they were responsible for planning violence in the capitol. it names the same organizations and groups that have already been charged criminally in the district, so it doesn't, i don't think, add new information about them. it's just more trouble for them and, of course, unlike a cri...

Because he is instruct by the former president but i think a clear case of federal contempt of congress. >> i want to be clear. the text messages that were read and that he has already turned over, they were specifically labeled as not privileged by his attorney. am i correct on that? >> yes. according to his attorney and to mr. meadows, all of the documents he gave was not privileged. if they had been privileged, they would have decline to turn them over but they acknowledge they are not. of course, conversation, for example of a chief of staff with a member of the press, how could that be co...

Privileged case might be a little stronger. we'll see the full house vote tonight and then in the doj to decide whether or not they want to charge meadows. the bannon case, took about be three weeks. this case seems a little more complicated. might be waiting a little while to see whether there are criminal consequences for mr. meadows. >> what would that look like? if the house recommended that the justice department seek charges against meadows, what are those charges? because, remember, when we all sat in these seats, gasping saying, goodness, steve bannon could be charged. he walked into t...