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Presidential document. that same logic it would seem would apply to the testimony of his former aides. that's why i say i think this will be a tough one for the justice department, unlike the bannon decision, which seems straightforward. >> nicholas, as we're talking about this contempt of congress vote, again, to set the stage here for folks watching and listening, about 25, 23 minutes from now we expect that debate to begin and we'll dip in live as news warrants and we know as we look ahead to what else the committee is doing, trying to get more depositions from people in the trump orbit. th...

Almost all the democrats voting yes and almost all the republicans voting no. >> great to see you, ryan, thank you so much. so the man at the center of whether to prosecute steve bannon after that step that ryan is just laying out, attorney general merrick garland. he is testifying right now on capitol hill before the house judiciary committee. he just weighed in on the bannon decision. let's get over to cnn's jessica schneider who's following this for us. jessica, what is the attorney general saying? >> well, this has been a wide-ranging hearing, kate. the attorney general has very much tried...