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Machine at breitbart. what do you think he means by that? >> i don't think it's ambiguous, i think it's pretty clear in what he thinks the president needs to deliver and i think actually the president is in agreement with him, too. certainly that is what i understand the case to be. but there are people in there who don't subscribe to the way that donald trump was elected. >> in there? >> in the white house, they don't hide it. it is not a secret. there are people who have more fealty to the obama style, and george bush style. so i think that breitbart wants to come back, you know it can be pl...

>> it's hard to imagine that nothing like that happened in the previous two year, right? and i wouldn't say -- >> it was running. running is different than governing. >> i would say america first is not completely out the window. what we're seeing is a constant negotiation or tension between his america first economic nationalist kind of insular nationalism instincts and the preferences of essentially almost all republicans in congress. vast majority of republicans in congress, existing republican foreign policy establishment. when he says i'm not going to declare china a currency manipulator ...

Standing by him. the stories about steve bannon extremely negative. i have done some reporting on this, has there been a lot of infighting with bannon versus jared kushner, absolutely. "the washington post" called him a marked man. likened him to a terminal patient in hospice care. erin: i think different times and different weeks there are different leakers. remember reince priebus was on the way out and he's still sitting in the white house. howie: when you look at the tone and the coverage. bannon is portrayed as a nationalist hardliner blow everything up kind of guy, and jared kushner is t...

Standing by him. the stories about steve bannon extremely negative. i have done some reporting on this, has there been a lot of infighting with bannon versus jared kushner, absolutely. "the washington post" called him a marked man. likened him to a terminal patient in hospice care. erin: i think different times and different weeks there are different leakers. remember reince priebus was on the way out and he's still sitting in the white house. howie: when you look at the tone and the coverage. bannon is portrayed as a nationalist hardliner blow everything up kind of guy, and jared kushner is t...

Spread around here for the cast and dysfunction inside this administration. but the tone is set at the top. this is what we've seen from time and time again from trump throughout the course of his campaign and now it's if he can'ting h-- infecting his whit house. absolutely. the reagan parallels. this sounds like ed meese to them. you have the person in the republican white house who is always the carrier of the flame, the voice to -- the conduit to the grassroots and that person's job is always to say okay, grassroots, let's cool it. we need to know when to fight these battles and need to kno...