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>> reporter: they don't have it get, that's the baottom line, kate. the scramble is on and they don't know what's going to happen coming out of this meeting. it is so crucial, the outcome of the discussion going on behind closed doors to determine whether or not they're even going to start the debate, as their plan is tonight. and again, as the white house is really pushing thousands republican leaders to do, kate. >> what breaks up this logjam is unclear at this moment. dana, thank you so much. dana's there and we'll get back to her as things are changing on the hill, fast. the panel is with ...

We counseln't do immigration reform because president obama issued the affirmative action. these are continual excuses. the baottom line is espionager boehner cannot get hisqaa caucuses together. if you look at -- i love maps so we've got to have another map. i really do love maps. if you look at where the affo affordable care act. let's look where people are signing up for it. these are in red states where republicans are saying it's not in my interest to do it because people don't trust president obama and he's the reason we can't do it. if you look at states like florida and alabama, you ha...

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