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It's led us to where we are right now in many respects. that decision to recuse, do you think it was the proper and appropriate decision by jeff sessions? >> i do think that that was the right decision given the controversy over his testimony about his own contacts. >> but he did have a choice, i guess, ultimately, right? there is no one that can tell an attorney general to investigate, though i imagine there's internal doj procedure. >> yes, there are. there are very good ethics lawyers who advise the attorney general and others about their ethical obligations, and there are bar rules that al...

Decision. it's led us to where we are right now in many respects. that decision to recuse, do you think it was the proper and appropriate decision by jeff sessions? >> i do think that that was the right decision given the controversy over his testimony about his own contacts. >> but he did have a choice, i guess, ultimately, right? there is no one that can tell an attorney general to investigate, though i imagine there's internal doj procedure. >> yes, there are. there are very good ethics lawyers who advise the attorney general and others about their ethical obligations, and there are bar rul...

This huge line up of people who have a defense lawyer? >> i'm a defense lawyer so i am biased but look these people are being investigated, it will be prune for them to hire a defense attorney. it's been alleged that when someone is being accused of collusion each should get their own lawyer. the law recognizes that each of those people need separate counsel. >> so you're saying this is smart, but yet the "new york times" is reporting the president's personal lawyer, marc kasowitz, he's telling white house aids don't get your own lawyer and he's now coming fire for doing that saying it's viola...