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The key things with mcauliffe, it's getting late early in the democratic nomination. we have him out, tim stire out. i don't know if they can keep their powder dry till november. >> dana: i saw joe biden, some of his people said that if we were to get into the race, maybe he would bypass new hampshire ail together and go straight to south carolina. is that a strategy that they should be thinking about already? >> i think my eye roll should speak for all of the 25 seconds. everybody would like to cut to the front of line running for president. nobody gets to. sorry, folks. >> dana: you think th...

Go back to their huts. he talks about mexicans as rapists. the point is this does while it must offend all of us two members of these groups it does serve to embolden the base in saying that's why we don't want haitians. that's why we don't want nigerians and mexicans in this country. it is damaging. >> it's damaging but it speaks to the prejudice of the people that he's speaking to. what he knows is 36% of the people that support him engage in this kind of bar talk if you want to use that language. they engage in this kind of bar talk. it used to be that we would be appalled if the president ...

In context of tps, temporary protective status. >> it's not an -- this is important. this is bar talk. this was actually in a discussion with senior legislatures about creating -- >> not a hot mike moment. >> that's right. >> but what he doesn't seem to get. tps is not a program designed to allow people to come here. tps is for people who are here already legally, some are undocumented after there is some type of crisis. you know, terrible epidemic or some war going on in their country to protect -- >> the earthquake in haiti because it is unsafe and unstable for them to go back. he's thinking...

Point two, for the person inside the trump campaign we're already hearing and again these are unconfirmed reports, that that person may have been george papadopoulos and his conversation with the australian ambassador. >> bill: that was bar talk, right, in london over drinks. >> george papadopoulos not the most reliable. a guy who has already been indicted for lying to the f.b.i. when i hear something that george papadopoulos says i don't exactly take it to the bank. >> bill: thank you. more coming up. nice to have you on from axios working on that for us. >> sandra: more coming up over the co...

Possible because we see it in other areas where president trump went too far of major conflict and dial it back. i think he wants to ratchet it up. the administration is working hard to negotiate. you have the two prongs. i think the pressure, to your point, chris, they dealing with a madman. i did not know that was a whole thing. let the guy at the bar talk. in this case, the pressure is about china. china can solve this and has always been able to solve it. the last thing that china wants is for war to break out or preemptive strike. they don't want refugees. it would be a disaster. so in th...