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This matter. joining me now, barbara mcwade, who is u.s. attorney for the eastern district of michigan until she was ordered to resign. stephen, let me start with you. i know this is a thing that lawyers have to deal with with clients, particularly in courtrooms where you get an adverse ruling from a judge and the client wants to yell at the judge or say insulting things about the judge. and generally my understanding is the advice lawyers give to clients is to not do that. you would imagine that's the same advice the president's getting from his legal counsel. >> oh, i think that's exactly ri...

Investigations, vice president pence today announced he has hired an outside counsel named richard cullen, a seasoned federal criminal attorney to represent him in the investigations. in a statement, pence's office said, quote, the vice president is focused entirely on his duties and promoting the president agenda and looks forward to a swift conclusion of this matter. joining me now, barbara mcwade, who is u.s. attorney for the eastern district of michigan until she was ordered to resign. stephen, let me start with you. i know this is a thing that lawyers have to deal with with clients, parti...

Congress begin turning against him and start talking about impeachment. >> barbara, did you get an opportunity to see some of the comments preet bharara made about his interactions with the president? >> i did. >> you know, you were in that cohort of people that were asked to resign en masse, and we should say that's not totally unusual. these are appointed positions. they serve at the pleasure of the president. but i wonder what you made of the interactions preet bharara described insofar as they seemed to track very similarly to what james comey described. that's to say the president reachin...

Disagree on issues. we might be able to debate what we think is the way to solve problems facing our constituents and our country. but i would be -- my heart would be torn if something happened to barbara lee. we're all a family here. you know, there are liberal democrats, conservative republicans, and many people in between. but we care about each other. we talk to each other. we know about each other's families and we know each other's passions on issues. what's not to answer is to advocate for violence against someone, to tolerate violence against someone, or to actually obviously as we saw...

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