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The government involved in this particular issue? >> yeah. >> this isn't -- this is about, you know, humans and suffering and that's not to be decided by anyone other than. but look, there are these laws in the books that oppose it. and ka vork yan was willing to stand up. they took away his license. he basically, you know, made no money. he never took money from any of those patients. he lived this very spartan life. clothes were from goodwill. i mean, this man -- >> a question i never asked you on camera and i'm going to ask you. how did you know if the case where the guy started a war to co...