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>> shannon: president obama said that sequestration which will trigger across-the-board cuts to domestic and defense programs will not happen but it is on track to kick in unless congress does something about it. what would it mean for the military and efforts in the middle east and around the world? joining us to talk about it house armed services committee member and congressman from california john garamendi. thank you for joining us today. >> good to be with you, shannon. >> shannon: the president said that with the debates and went on to have an interview with the des moines register edit...

good evening, i'm john avlon in for erin burnett tonight. the time when campaigns try to hammer home negative attacks. we're living in a time when spin outways substance, when with narratives can matter much more than facts. and summer is the time when we see the campaigns try to make these attacks stick. on this show, we try to play it straight. criticizing the democrats claims that republicans are conducting a war on women. while at the same time calling out conservatives for saying that president obama is waging a war on religion. the problem is when we demonize people we disagree...

the time when campaigns try to hammer home negative attacks. we're living in a time when spin outways substance, when with narratives can matter much more than facts. and summer is the time when we see the campaigns try to make these attacks stick. on this show, we try to play it straight. criticizing the democrats claims that republicans are conducting a war on women. while at the same time calling out conservatives for saying that president obama is waging a war on religion. the problem is when we demonize people we disagree with, using fear and hate instead of reason. well, tonigh...

memorial day is the unofficial start of the summer. the presidential race is just entering its second stage. it's the time when campaigns try to hammer home negative attacks, now reinforced by super pac ads. we're living in a time when spin outweighs substance. when narratives can unfortunately matter much more than facts. and summer is the time when we see the campaigns try to make these attacks stick. now, on this show we try to play it straight, criticizing, for example, the democrats' claims that republicans are conducting a war on women. while at the same time calling out conser...

Going to allow a debit ceiling increase without doing something serious about the debt. at the same time he could be using the debt limit as a bargaining tool. $500 billion in defense cuts will start to go into effect. is that what they're after? a bargaining chip on this? >> my feeling is they creating the perfect storm. they have all of those tax cuts, all of those cuts in the military, all of the digressionary cuts in the budget, all coming due along with this debt crisis at the same time right around the election. and i believe they really have no interest in anything but capturing the whi...