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Coming out and saying the flow rate is irrelevant? that it doesn't matter to the effort or overall, how much oil is pouring out every single day. >> how do i say this delicately, let me think? he's lying. lying, lying, lying. the statute says if they show gross negligence it could be up to $4,000 a barrel fine. they first tell us -- i'm the worst lawyer in the world, but i think i could take on the bp legal team. 4,000 barrels a day. they started out saying it was 1,000. they're going to put new estimates, saying it's 80 to 100. what is that, $32 million a day. >> doug suttles in his own lette...

Is pouring out of there every single day? >> how do i say this delicately, let me think? he's lying. lying, lying, lying. the statute says if they show gross negligence it could be up to $4,000 a barrel fine. >> right, first they rule -- >> they first tell us -- i'm the worst lawyer in the world, but i think i could take on the bp legal team. 4,000 barrels a day. they started out saying it was 1,000. they're going to put new estimates, saying it's 80 to 100. 80 times 4,000, i don't know, $32 million a day? >> doug suttles in his own letter to the coast guard, because the coast guard said, your...

Ago with james carville and billy nungesser. what do you make of doug suttles coming out and saying the flow rate is irrelevant? that it doesn't matter to the effort or overall, how much oil is pouring out every single day. >> how do i say this delicately, let me think? he's lying. lying, lying, lying. the statute says if they show gross negligence it could be up to $4,000 a barrel fine. they first tell us -- i'm the worst lawyer in the world, but i think i could take on the bp legal team. 4,000 barrels a day. they started out saying it was 1,000. they're going to put new estimates, saying it'...