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Why aren't americans feeling that? >> well, first of all, his approval rating is 49%s are which in this climate that we live in is not a bad approval rating. we live in a very polarized environment. this is not some bottom of the barrel rating. i think when you're saying -- people are not enthusiastic about his leadership. it's fair to say that. there's a lot of problems in the country and the president is held responsible for pretty much everything that goes wrong. >> can i ask you something on that note? >> yeah. >> charlie said, correct me if i'm wrong, i don't think the president can do mu...

On. let's talk more about polling here and you can weigh in. 34% see biden as a leader. 66% have some doubts. i mean, this is what the president ran on, leadership and bringing a grownup back to the white house, right? why aren't americans feeling that? >> well, first of all, his approval rate is 49%, which in this climate is not bad. and we live in a very polarized environment. so this is not some really bottom of the barrel rating. i think that where you see people saying -- they're not enthusiastic about his leadership, it's fair to say that. that's because there's a lot of problems in this...