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Here with us now, columnist gail collins. she is out with a new book, "as texas goes: how the lone star state hijacked the american agenda." i want to start with another "new york times" piece, though, the message from wisconsin it's called, and it goes over the results of the recall election. it says mr. walker's campaign raised seven times as much money as mr. barrett's, much of it in six-figure checks from some of the same business interests. the tactics worked in wisconsin, and in several other states. labor, so long in decline in the private sector, is also losing its clout in states and ...

That's why i think he'll win this race. >> let me say something, because what's interesting is that collective bargaining and labor issues have not actually dominated the faceup between barrett and walker because folks are maybe on the fence. barrett's had a hard time getting out the labor vote -- or at least getting the support of the labor movement because a lot of them are sort of questioning how he will handle the budget crisis if he were to become governor. >> another reason you haven't heard so much about it is it's been happening so long. you were talking about graphs and lines, this de...

It's really hard to recall a governor and only happened twice and in recent american history, 1921 and 2003. aen therefore, this was always a long shot. as opposed to the obvious story, which was this was a huge setback for democrats and for liberal union people in particular. >> jon: the money spent was often cited by those who, you know, lost the walker recall election, they say, oh, he outspent us 7 or 8 to one. when you add it up, all the spending for all the candidates, it was really a lot closer than that. >> and what i read, and also to keep him out of state, much of walker's moint came...

List of four. it's really hard to recall a governor and only happened twice and in recent american history, 1921 and 2003. aen therefore, this was always a long shot. as opposed to the obvious story, which was this was a huge setback for democrats and for liberal union people in particular. >> jon: the money spent was often cited by those who, you know, lost the walker recall election, they say, oh, he outspent us 7 or 8 to one. when you add it up, all the spending for all the candidates, it was really a lot closer than that. >> and what i read, and also to keep him out of state, much of walke...

It's really hard to recall a governor and only happened twice and in recent american history, 1921 and 2003. aen therefore, this was always a long shot. as opposed to the obvious story, which was this was a huge setback for democrats and for liberal union people in particular. >> jon: the money spent was often cited by those who, you know, lost the walker recall election, they say, oh, he outspent us 7 or 8 to one. when you add it up, all the spending for all the candidates, it was really a lot closer than that. >> and what i read, and also to keep him out of state, much of walker's moint came...