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Them on notice that this is coming. if a future congress decided that this wasn't a good idea, the way the rules work, they have to come up with billions of dollars in substances to the payment. this is subject to the pay-go bill. they don't get to cancel it and march down the road. i think that it is a good balance between getting a very effective cost strategy as part of this legislation, and putting people on notice so that their policies don't change overnight. this isn't imposed overnight but they know it's coming and we've got to change the structure. >> the issue of abortion is one that...

Market strategy that they are willing to dump customers and continue to raise costs so changing their behavior, putting them on notice that this is coming. if a future congress decided that this wasn't a good idea, the way the rules work, they have to come up with billions of dollars in substances to the payment. this is subject to the pay-go bill. they don't get to cancel it and march down the road. i think that it is a good balance between getting a very effective cost strategy as part of this legislation, and putting people on notice so that their policies don't change overnight. this isn't...

By the federal government that covers abortion. you must do so. also, in that same language, if you come in the senate version, in the opm, office of personal management policy they will put forth you must pay every enrollee must pay $1 per month into a fund to help fund abortions. it's very clear. >> will you make the fix that he's talking about so there is no federal money paying for abortions? >> there is no federal money paying for abortions. that's just not my statement, it is what, you know, a legal analyst who has looked at the senate bill, it's what the fact checkers who look at the st...

We're using, in the senate bill it says you must offer insurance policies that will be paid for by the federal government that covers abortion. you must do so. also, in that same language, if you come in the senate version, in the opm, office of personal management policy they will put forth you must pay every enrollee must pay $1 per month into a fund to help fund abortions. it's very clear. >> will you make the fix that he's talking about so there is no federal money paying for abortions? >> there is no federal money paying for abortions. that's just not my statement, it is what, you know, a...

Energy and congress, worked on issues and he supports the president's notion about this. congressman stupak and the president agree. >> but they don't agree how you get it. what needs to be done, he used to abyes, he is now a no vote. how does he become a yes sflot >> i think people will continue to talk to him. i think that there is no question -- >> to try to persuade him he's wrong. >> i think there is no question that the senate bill does not provide federal funding for abortion but at the end of the day i think that we'll get to the point that there's agreement that there is no federal fu...