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Published was an engineer's deconstruction of the wall and how it will cost more than $5 billion and how it can't be built anyway. but it is a simple idea and therefore appealing to donald trump, who is not prepared to grapple with a complex idea like the real way that you control and promote immigration in the proper way and, you know, keep people from crossing the border when they are unlawfully doing so. i mean, this is not something that -- you can't put up a wall. that's not going to do it. but because it's an appealing, simple sort of dumb idea, he really likes it. >> and the thing is, j...

They ruled to block it, jamaal. this has been one of the base arguments, base of the democratic party gets fired up about the voter party laws, saying for different reasons, is there validity that the voter laws are going to keep people from the polls? >> sure. there's a question about latino voters, in south carolina that came up about older african-american voters, if you're 80 years old and weren't born in the hospital, you don't have a birth certificate, you don't drive anymore, you may not have a government id that's valid. so trying to get those folks up to par and get them back is a pre...

That's why the president said just this week you you didn't want these politicians most of whom getting male getting between you and your doctor. and he made it a gender argument. his position is different than romney's. but i do think that it would be fair to say that three weeks ago barack obama was not talking all about choice and other base arguments. . so that's why again in ohio, you have mitt romney still trying to make a sale because he's trying to talk to people who might be up in the air. >> i was interested because i saw there's one little difference that happened with the obama cam...