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We've been outvoting men for decades. so if he wants to win in 2020, he's going to need those women who maybe they're conservatives but when they see those pictures of those children like we saw on friday, these little boys in hospital beds and trump is threatening to deport them, that's what's going to hurt him. so while he was base building over the summer, he definitely overstepped his mark and he recognized that and he's going to try to walk it back. >> the other interesting thing i found about this article, jonathan, they talk about the exhaustion factor. you know it. anybody who has ever...

Strategically he will start moving a couple of things that will have some of the doubters back in his column. >> you know, and here's -- here's the question. why doesn't he harness this for good instead of for bad or for getting into twitter spats with debra messing? he has an incredible twitter following. i'm not sure if it's the most of anyone, but probably close to, so why not use that to speak directly to folks to encourage them to reach out to their elected officials? to say, hey, let's get infrastructure done. let's figure out how we're going to do it. he has the bully pulpit of this day...

Actually that response by the electorate. they said we will vote for what affects us and what offends us. >> what offends you can affect you. >> that's right. no one is going anywhere. they're too good. after the break, donald trump and his deportation raids. the much-publicized raids the president himself leaked twice. we will bring you the latest on that. and the polls that have trump turning to base building. all of the top republicans running to challenge trump beat him in the head-to-head matchups. also ahead the real, definitive, authorized republican autopsy, one of the biggest and be...

Organization to use small dollars to produce the kind of money that is going to be necessary to take on a president plus a super pac? >> absolutely. i think small dollar fund-raising is a powerful tool not just for base building, but being huge catalysts for the candidates. we will see that increasingly and it is a good indicator of who is picking up steam and support across the coalition of voters. it's a good indicator. when you look at the movements, including our own that have emerged in the post trump err a the amount of fund-raising we have seen is tremendous. that's one way they will su...

>> there is a question that i think people have about whether small dollar -- there is a powerful small dollar movement among democrats. we saw it in 2018 and with various candidates. the question is, do you think there is enough desire, consciousness, mobilization and organization to use small dollars to produce the kind of money that is going to be necessary to take on a president plus a super pac? >> absolutely. i think small dollar fund-raising is a powerful tool not just for base building, but being huge catalysts for the candidates. we will see that increasingly and it is a good indicato...