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And now they re turning around defending junk insurance. it s been a wild ride. i find it aren t you somewhat amazed at how this has all unfolded? i think it s political rhetoric and heated rhetoric. i think, ed, you make one very important point, which is that you cannot both be for, well, we don t want the preexisting condition exclusions, we don t want insurance company to discriminate against people who have serious illness. on the other, we do want them to be able to create these very slim plans, et cetera. that s exactly how they exclude people who have health conditions. and how they make it very difficult to cover everyone. if you re going to cover everyone, regardless of their health condition, regardless of whether they ve had cancer or a serious accident or some other problem, you really have to have a mandate. you have to have a base coverage that everyone has to get to. otherwise, the market will not work. and that, i think, is a very important lesson that has been o ....