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Election, the senate races and now this one. clearly that base doesn't win you the majority you need to control the senate, to get the white house. how do they reconcile that contradiction? >> reporter: well, i don't -- clearly they're not thinking about math because since 2015 the party has been one of division and not multiplication and addition. the streets are littered with republican casualties from jeff flake to liz cheney to will herd, folks who realize what happened when they went against the trump. the party decided to push out good conservatives like adam kinzinger and liz cheney. th...

About ilhan omar, she's a bigot. boebert is a bigot. but most importantly lauren boebert incited violence against another fellow member of congress. she called a fellow member of congress a suicide bomber. the scary thing, though, jessica, is lauren boebert is exactly where the republican party base is. you and i consider what she said to be outrageous. the base doesn't. >> it is outrageous. and to just sit there and listen to it, you hear her getting laughs from the crowd there, it is clearly done for laughs. and she's probably going to fund-raise off of it and make a fair amount of money for...

Select committee to investigate the january 6th insurrection. it seems the gop leader is trying to stay close to trump as he can for 2022 as it approaches. is this a smart midterm strategy for mccarthy and his party as new revelations about the former president continues to roll in? >> well, there is nothing really -- it's not surprising. it's shocking what we hear in these books. we're not surprised. people know what donald trump is. mccarthy only has one option at this point, and that is to stay tethered to donald trump. my guess is donald trump gave him a list of five names that he said the...

Their empires throughout society. that is really what we need to be talking about. it's not just about being anti-civil rights, it's about beating down marginalized populations throughout the world. >> are you concerned that donald trump's base doesn't really believe in small l liberal, small d democracy? >> that's one of the reasons why i remain a never trumper, because i think every healthy democracy is going to need a conservative party, but it needs a conservative party that believes in the fundamental tenets of liberal society, including free speech and all of the civil rights. unfortunat...

You want to talk about bias and algorithms, it has been exploited and the challenge going forward for google and facebook and everybody in this community is to figure out how to root out the disinformation that is spreading and allowing conspiracy theories to take hold and that is a lot more dangerous i think that whether or not what percent of people work at google are donating to democrats. >> this is a very popular thing for the president to say for his base because google and all of big tech are saying we are on the left, almost 100% on the left, but we are playing straight down the middle...