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What, the base has driven us to support things that have hurt the party as a whole. we are not going to let the base drive us anymore. now, that said, the base has never been more emboldened and i think they see this i think we are starting it may end up blowing up into a civil war in the party but the establishment is clearly starting to fight back. like 1964, when the people like rockefeller and those guys dropped out? didn t back the nominee? there s an argument there s an argument 64, the long run was a great thing for the republican party. in the right context up until now, they feel they have been lied to and cheated on a lot of these points that chuck raised. i am saying the fight needs to ....