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You know even listening to jeb bush talking about americans needing to work more hours. well, he hasn't talked about the pay disparity. you showed the clip of him in detroit talking about, you know these are things we need to be paying attention to. pay attention to for what purpose? what is the solution after you pay attention to them? we all know they're facts. what are you going to do to resolve them? i certainly don't think there's any room for a progressive agenda for hillary clinton on the republican side. >> how do you think they fight her agenda? how does this debate go? and how is the...

Than before. >> is there no longer any realistic possibility of dialogue in washington leading to attitude change? >> there would be. there would be. the republicans just won an election based on it being a base election. they think even though the electorate will be different in 2016 than 2014 the republicans think they won that senate back. they won that midterm election because they went to their base. >> but there is room for consensus. >> there's always room. the number one job of the president of the united states is to this build consensus. if you don't talk. if you don't have your staf...

In november? it's a midterm election, and you talk to people on both sides who are working the campaigns, it is a base election. so do you think that it also might have the flip side effect and that yes, they're going to fire up the republican base, but they might also fire up the democratic base in favor of the president, in favor of their democratic candidates, because they might be so angry about this? >> well, i don't know. you know, i completely buy into you saying that it's a midterm election. therefore it's a turnout election. and an election like this is going to be won or lost based o...

Some nebulous republican alternative. can republicans keep up the passion to say that even 1 in 10 want it repealed? >> they can keep up the passion. i think for a lot of republicans, conservatives and for a good part of the voting block the base of the republican party, this is not a question of rational politics. this is theology. obamacare is now the surrogate, the stand in for everything they hate about obama. it doesn't matter what the facts are, it stands in fee. he's for socialism, he's against freedom. he wants to destroy the country. all things that we've heard conservatives say for t...

11% of people want to replace the affordable care act with some nebulous republican alternati alternative. can republicans keep up the passion to say that even 1 in 10 want it repealed? >> they can keep up the passion. i think for a lot of republicans, conservatives and for a good part of the voting block the base of the republican party, this is not a question of rational politics. this is theology. obamacare is now the surrogate, the stand in for everything they hate about obama. it doesn't matter what the facts are, it stands in fee. he's for socialism, he's against freedom. he wants to des...