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Do you think democrats in the senate would have us buy-in on this, would draw this line in the sand without that kind of activity? >> let's remember what this is about. this is about the dreamer population, more than 700,000 kids who came here through no fault of their own and basically have grown up as americans and are contributing to our country. democrats have been for fixing that problem for a long time, former president decades. most republicans have been, too. that's why it's an 80-plus supported issue. i think everybody understands, and i don't think anybody around this table would dis...

Going, you know, postal, if you will, on the nfl players taking a knee, which was only a handful of players at the time. makes that into a big base issue. >> not being deeply immersed in the details of legislative negotiations, it's very easy for him, and he's the art of the deal guy. part of being a deal maker is you say things that people want to hear until you are at the sort of sign on the bottom line thing. so we had that chuck and nancy moment several months ago. where did that go? nowhere. he was busy attacking them just a few months, if not a few weeks, later. so i thought yesterday's ...

>> there's been a lot of activity, in fact, mostly in the manner of tweets, from members of congress, members of the senate, who say, let us handle this. don't end daca. let's do it the right way. one of the criticisms of daca was that like president trump enjoys, president obama also enjoyed the executive orders and things done by presidential decree. congress feels immigration and matters like this are its territory. is there a solution here, where congress takes this over and handles it? >> well, i mean, in a sense, that would be easier for donald trump. he wouldn't have to make a decision ...

Is there a solution where congress takes it over and handles it? >> in a sense that would be easier for donald trump. he wouldn't have to make a decision on something that obviously is you know a humanitarian issue. he has said i love the dreamers. he doesn't want to be seen as hard hearted. at the same time it's a base issue for him let's get back to that. the fact is being tough on immigration is one of the things he won with his base on. that and the wall were key issues for him. although it's a shrinking base it's 31% of the people are very much with him. we have to put in context there ar...

Like president trump enjoyed president obama enjoyed the executive orders and things done by executive decree. congress chafes at this. they feel matters of immigration are its territory. is there a solution where congress takes it over and handles it? >> in a sense that would be easier for donald trump. he wouldn't have to make a decision on something that obviously is you know a humanitarian issue. he has said i love the dreamers. he doesn't want to be seen as hard hearted. at the same time it's a base issue for him let's get back to that. the fact is being tough on immigration is one of the...