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He wouldn't have to make a decision on something that obviously is you know a humanitarian issue. he has said i love the dreamers. he doesn't want to be seen as hard hearted. at the same time it's a base issue for him let's get back to that. the fact is being tough on immigration is one of the things he won with his base on. that and the wall were key issues for him. although it's a shrinking base it's 31% of the people are very much with him. we have to put in context there other fak to yous -- factors now. hurricane harvey and texas, which is the state that has the second largest number of d...

Base issue for donald trump. it fits into the whole thing with the wall and the untruths he has told about illegal immigrants causing so much crime in america, which the actual statistics show is not true, that native born americans commit crime at higher rates than immigrants, legal or illegal. but, you know, facts matter to us, but not to the rhetoric that donald trump has promoted. >> can i ask you, and i don't mean to interrupt, a version of a question i just asked nicolle, fair to say no other president would have granted this pardon we're seeing tonight? >> well -- >> early term, before ...

Sometimes you have to focus on the base issue and have that be your messaging point i think anthony is going to help him do that in a much more clear fashion. >> does this promise more clarity from the president or perhaps even a greater openness to clarity? >> i will use the word enabler. >> he's going to allow donald to be even more donald than he has been so far. >> he did promise, let donald j. trump be donald j. trump. >> exactly. the notion that we need a more authentic donald trump is disturbing. >> they always want to say they have a communications problem, they almost never have a com...

Doing sanctuary city type policies, merely because they don't want to get crossed with the federal government. i think by and large, this will sort itself out. i agree with jonah. it is much to do about nothing. politically speaking, i don't think it is bad for donald trump to be mixing it up with the ninth circuit. >> bret: the same spot, san francisco, for the kate steinle murder, which he talked a lot on the campaign trail. >> responding to this ruling, mentioning the fact that san francisco is where kate steinle was murdered, a five-time deported illegal immigrant. this a win politically f...

Senator mccain, graham, rubio. >> yes, senator roy blunt of missouri and senator bob corker of tennessee, these are two senior people who have been very quiet the first three and a half, four weeks and now we have some sound of them speaking out. they're concerned about these links with russia. >> let's listen. >> i think it's likely general flynn at some point will be asked to come and talk to the committee about both post election activities and any other activities he would be aware of. >> the base issue is getting to the bottom of what the russian interference was and what the relationship...