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Recent weeks. so, no, i don't think it's a strategy for independent voters. i think it's a strategy for base mobilization. >> phil rucker, in the category of uncomfortable smiles, no one has mcconnell and mccarthy beat. i raise this because we note on the white house schedule there is a 4:00 republican congressional leadership meeting with the president. what's that going to be like? >> to be a fly on that wall. we'll see what that meeting is like. i mean, look, the president is, is going to have to explain himself, i think, and explain these comments. we've notably not heard from mitch mcconn...

Strategy for independent voters but for base mobilization. >> phil, no one has mcconnell and mccarthy beat. i raise this because we note on the white house schedule, there is a 4:00 republican congressional leadership meeting with the president. what's that going to be like? >> to be a fly on that wall. we'll see what that meeting is like. i mean, look, the president is going to have to explain himself i think and explain these comments. we've notably not heard from mitch mcconnell, the highest ranking republican on capitol hill. he has been silent. by the way, most of those republicans who co...

Though. which party do you think benefits most?>> i will cop out and say both but i have an explanation. it would be interesting if you differentiated how the parties view them. republican voters would put immigration at the top. democratic voters would put healthcare where the top. a lot of messaging all of the country on this issue of pre-existing conditions. you had that discussion with martha mcsally. - - understand they favor protection of pre-existing condition. they are pushing that hard to get out there base. this caravan, i almost think trumps campaign paid for the caravan. >>chris: l...

Though. which party do you think benefits most?>> i will cop out and say both but i have an explanation. it would be interesting if you differentiated how the parties view them. republican voters would put immigration at the top. democratic voters would put healthcare where the top. a lot of messaging all of the country on this issue of pre-existing conditions. you had that discussion with martha mcsally. - - understand they favor protection of pre-existing condition. they are pushing that hard to get out there base. this caravan, i almost think trumps campaign paid for the caravan. >>chris: l...

Since the base likes trump much more than his congressional allies, it makes sense for the purposes of base mobilization to emphasize their role as trump's legal bodyguards. here is a devil's advocate question for you, cornell. in 1998 republicans held all sorts of congressional investigations into bill clinton and it backfired on them. is there a risk for democrats if they come into power in november that if they end up sending subpoena after subpoena after subpoena to the white house and overflowing the white house with work in terms of answering those subpoenas and stopping the white house ...