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I had to pitch really hard and, yeah, take a lot of meetings to make it work. But then, you know, for somebody whos so sort of secretive about what she does, i think one thing that was really interesting is that there were no inaudible around the interview. There was nothing i could and couldnt say. There was nobody sitting in the room. There was, you know, a relatively strict Time Limit i think i got about ten minutes more than what had been, you know, allowed for but it was a surprisingly loose experience for somebody who is so sort of monumental and, you know, where theres, by necessity, such secrecy around what she does. And do you think the media is afraid to be critical of her now . Is she that big . Yeah, i think some elements are. I mean, theres various aspects of it. I mean, youve got i mean, as is always important, youve got to be brutally accurate about everything that you do about her because she is known to be litigious, or her team will respond to things that they think a

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