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The other thing that they're energized by, frankly, are the justices, gorsuch and kavanaugh, and the federal court appointees and that's powerful here. leland: i'll come back to the first question. if as you say the economy in arizona is red-hot and the statistics and the numbers support that hypothesis and people are motivated by the economy, why aren't more people coming out for marsha mcsalley. why is this razor thin if people are so happy? well, i think in the end republicans have been complacent longer than democrats, quite frankly. and so, if we get the base out, then martha will win pro...

Enthusiasm? >> oh, sure, i mean the democrats are killing it fund-raising wise, and i do think the energy there is as much anti-trump as anything. picking up on something my friend eddie said a minute ago. i do think the timing of senator warren pushing out her blood test is really not something that's helpful to democrats. it probably is helpful to republicans because it allows republicans to remind ourselves what we're against. but going into election day, i do think the democratic fund-raising apparatus is something we've never seen in american political history, and for republicans to narr...

Election. that's what midterms are all about. if you can't get your base out, which he needs to come out, then you're not going to do well in a midterm election. donald trump's polling numbers, favorability numbers are down. you have him at 36. we saw "washington post" at 36 two weeks ago. helsinki with putin and hurting him with key voters that he he will need in november. >> which ones specifically? >> we saw some softening with rural moms as well. that's a problem for republicans and fighting for gubernatorial senate races as well. democrats should not sit on their laurels. yes, the wind is...

And it's a sign of how important the midterm elections are to both parties. this is a rally your base election. in a weird way, obama's speech may be helpful for trump's quest to get his base out, like every time trump makes a speech at a rally it may be useful to obama's base and getting them to come out this fall. >> ryan, as i pointed out president obama had not a lot to say before the election, but it didn't make much of a difference. it's weird watching he predicted all of this as a lot of people did. do you think it's going to make much of a difference now? >> well, i think, look, i thin...

He knows his popularity. this is a question of getting the base out, but the last question that we're going to be watching is what happens with the middle. those that don't always vote democratic. that is what we have deserved in politics. so how does that play out with candidates in florida. >> it was a closed door event, one of the participants did capture audio of what he said, and it was frightening.