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Not a politician. you can't say that. he is a masterful politician in this moment. >> well, we are watching fear and loathing on the campaign trail, and there is no doubt that he is one of the most effective marketers that politician has seen. he's remade the political party in a conservative populist, now nationalist image, which is really a rebuke to past presidents, reagan, bush and on. he's tried to play to the outer reaches of politics, give evidence of a play to the base panic. i'm trying to stoke these fires through falsehoods. i'm not sure that's evidence of skill. that's evidence mayb...

That's why people like ron desantis are converting that general election view. it's a sign to sort of play to the base panic. he's pulling out all the states. he's got to reach way down to see middle easterners coming across the mexican border. >> another issue that the president seems to like, like the crown prince of saudi arabia and those saudis who are ordering weapons from the united states, defense contracting. the president talking there, and you heard in the piece there about all the jobs that are created. up to a million jobs. this is how it started, though. i want to just play this, ...

Voters want. on the republican side they made a promise and they have to stand and deliver. the public knows how much they are falling down on the job. you're right that votes this way or that way are a tactics with been the strategy is to make a ov overwhelming course of -- >> there is part of the base panic i panicking too soon. >> i enjoyed booking you on this, because i know you also want claire mccaskill in the senate, right? i didn't come here this afternoon to bury shum chumer, came to praise him. for the first time you had senate democrats go to the mats, as it were for immigrants, but...