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What could take away is if he has a shaky base performance. if the former vice president has another tough time at the debate they will take a lot of that away from him. >> it is representative of black america. joel, let me get your thoughts on this one. they all come out a little bit bruised. is this a fight worth having? who needs this fight more than the other? >> these are distinctions worth drawing. they all have a stake in this. you need to show you are a main stage player. you can be viable in this race. that's why you see him drawing

Out shareholder equity. >> sean: politically speaking, the american people are going to be made aware of this. the american people rejected health care, they did it any way now they are going to push this big -- >> all with 51 votes. we have to repeal it and defund all of it. they will get much of this passed. they can go through with 51 votes. >> sean: you are saying the democrats are going to along with this process they deemed and said was arrogant and unconstitutional? >> yeah there's a chance on some of the substance we can push back. then the no child left behind act. instead of basing i...

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