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About? >> well they say the millennials love the environment. i really think he's better for the base in general. i think he's a better base play. >> i wouldn't agree. i actually think you go out and talk about millennials they really do care about the environment. they are watching the cataclysmic storms and -- >> al gore -- >> yeah he's like papa smur f o the climate change conversation. all the millennials i've -- >> -- number two he's also all these voters olders and younger who are thinking voting third party. a really important warning sign for them. >> i want to talk about wikileaks. th...

Difficult to change people's minds even with facts and evidence. this woman was presented with information that her own health care plan was better than the one she had before in terms of out of pocket costs and she simply refused to believe it. so it is going to be very hard, especially with the folks like her who are predisposed to reject information about how the law might be beneficial. >> i think, tara, it's important here to distinguish between the project of persuading people and motivating people. and i think particularly when you're talking about a midterm election, particularly when ...

Evidence. this woman was presented with information that her own health care plan was better than the one she had before in terms of out of pocket costs and she simply refused to believe it. so it is going to be very hard, especially with the folks like her who are predisposed to reject information about how the law might be beneficial. >> i think, tara, it's important here to distinguish between the project of persuading people and motivating people. and i think particularly when you're talking about a midterm election, particularly when we're talking about the florida '13 special election, i...

Care plan was better than the one she had before in terms of out of pocket costs and she simply refused to believe it. so it is going to be very hard, especially with the folks like her who are predisposed to reject information about how the law might be beneficial. >> i think, tara, it's important here to distinguish between the project of persuading people and motivating people. and i think particularly when you're talking about a midterm election, particularly when we're talking about the florida '13 special election, i think people perceive the gop harps on obamacare because they think it'...

From bill clinton or have a fund-raiser has a lot of explaining to do. in fact, i think they should give the money back. >> man. joining me now is michael crawly, molly ball and political economist for yahoo! news. michael, i'll start with you. it's almost hard not to view these comments. he wants to be the 2016 nominee. hillary clinton may be the democratic nominee. >> i hate to reduce it all to politics and rand paul is a guy that doesn't play by normal political rules. he says things in politics that other people don't. but this would also be consistent to say something new and different. b...