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In fact, this is less and less about trump now because the infection has so fully moved inside the bloodstream of the party. trump is not the animating character any longer. >> i gotta go ahead. >> i was gonna say just to the point, assuming that it is all dangerous, they are all dangerous until proven otherwise, because what else do you have to go? on >> that's why thought it was particularly interesting that you had desantis getting on this train. the person who is the most likely seen as the 2024 contender whether trump runs or not felt that he had to come to trump's defense on this. michae...

Willing to do. so fundamentally, all of us have to understand, this is not a donald trump problem. this is a republican base problem. and the longer that goes on and the misinformation and everything that is consumed by that, the more danger it is, in my view, to our democracy. >> we've only got a couple of seconds left, juanita, but do you make anything of the fact that while donald trump continues to raise huge amounts of money, the people who voted for impeachment are raising more money than there trump backed other challengers. >> that shows there is more support for getting to the truth a...

This. the root causes not excise donald trump. which is what happened. he lost in 2020. it's gotten worse since 2020 with the republican party is willing to do. so fundamentally, all of us have to understand, this is not a donald trump problem. this is a republican base problem. and the longer that goes on and the misinformation and everything that is consumed by that, the more danger it is, in my view, to our democracy. >> we've only got a couple of seconds left, juanita, but do you make anything of the fact that while donald trump continues to raise huge amounts of money, the people who vote...

Thinks when will we know? do we need to go through the primary campaign in 2022? >> the whole fever breaking analogy needs to go away. rachel is exactly right. mcconnell has a base problem but here's the thing. mcconnell's base is the gop caucus, and he's got a really firm grasp on this, even if some of these long shot candidates get in, they won't get a majority of just -- mathematically they won't get a majority. >> the takeaway from that piece as well could have been just as interesting as trump trying to basically press mcconnell and try to find an owe powers is how he was met with skeptic...

Republican base problem. and that base let's face it will never see him as their leader. susan, you've worked for politicians. since when does the house minority leader have to call you, marge? she says he should have called me like she's his boss. we used to debate back when i was a seminormal republican party. we used to debate about tax policy. people will never believe that. look it up. it's all over youtube. now this is a poll by my friends at the public religion research institute. and do you agree with this statement. because things have gotten so far offtrack true american patriots may...