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Anti-cop. brian sicknick's mom, why won't they talk to her? they are doing everything opposite of their brand because this is about grabbing power. does this turn off base republicans or do they say, this is the way we guarantee we have power? >> i don't know. base republicans might be okay with it. claire is right though. there's a large number of swing voters who have to be looking at this and say, what are we learning about republicans claims that they back the blue when they won't meet with the mom of the officer who died. people should be alarmed. more and more, begin to think that what h...

House? >> support for impeachment is around 50% of the public, hire than bill clinton's which never reached more above a third. fred, despite that there were 90 house republicans in districts that bill clinton carried, almost all of them voted. only seven lost their seats. i think voting for impeachment is a great threat isn't supported by history. putting their eggs in the senate is putting their message on all issues -- their goal is to delegitimize the process. talk to their base republicans should stick with me. they're not putting forward a substantive argument designed to counter the evi...

Donald trump cast a dark vision of america in 2016, and essentially said elect me, or this is going to happen. he's doing that again. don't underestimate it working as it relates to turning out base republicans. i still think women, particularly women in the suburbs and bill knows this from his time spent on house democratic committees. those voters are the biggest problem for donald trump and republicans, and there are a whole lot in california and everywhere else. a lot of house districts republicans hold, there's a lot of suburban women. i don't think these tactics work there. >> let's see....

Let's say, and listen to a campaign speech donald trump gives, he essentially says -- actually, i'm going to paraphrase though i probably could quote directly. he says they, democrats, are for open borders. they want violent gangs to roam your streets. you were talking about this with cuomo. fear is a hugely powerful motivator. donald trump cast a dark vision of america in 2016, and essentially said elect me, or this is going to happen. he's doing that again. don't underestimate it working as it relates to turning out base republicans. i still think women, particularly women in the subursubur ...

He is not talking to independents with this issue. he is talking to base republicans, the kind of people who are going to his rallies, the kind of people who he needs to get out and vote. i mean, so many of these districts that are toss-up districts are places that he won by a significant margin. really not that long ago, just in 2016. >> jonathan, let me take the risk of trying to summarize and distill the reporting that's out there about this profanity-laced shouting match in the hallways. normally sedate, you can hear a pin drop, quiet hallways of the west wing. bolt ton and kelly squared o...