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National republicans have done far worse than simply march along to mr. trump's beat. their defense of him is imbued with an ugliness, a meanness, and a willingness to attack and slander those who have shed blood for our country, who have dedicated their lives and careers to its defense and its security. they basically say there are those enabling the president's behavior. how do you feel about that? >> listen. there is a very, very small sliver of the republican party that are never trumpers and they still exist out there. you named a few of them. but if you look at the republican party and t...

Office? here it's conditioning foreign aid on the opening of an investigation to a political rival, period. >> it can't be nebulous, right, if democrats are going to serve this to the american people. >> with less than a year before a presidential election. with a primary that will probably go pretty far into the calendar. this is a huge uphill battle for them right now. there is a messaging problem. they have an election less than a year who is going to require enormous amounts of money and a shurj amount of base support when the bench hasn't decided what the message is yet. >> the message is...

Him we can say that this is abnormal and inappropriate but it is as long as there's transparency and the people and the base support him and if they continue to support him so be it. >> you see him using his most senior officials, dispatching bill barr, right, to other countries to pursue the investigation and bears repeating, watch this moment with mike pompeo asked about what he knew about this call and his answer now. let's play it. i want your reaction. >> what do you know about those conversations? >> so you just gave me a report about a whistle-blower complaint none of which i have seen....

Least been primary opposition. i can think of nothing, frederick, more un-democratic if you're president trump and things are great and you feel fine and strong you wouldn't do this. they must be afraid of the fact that maybe he's not doing well. >> s.e., it's not just south carolina that's considering this. what's your reaction? >> i've been reading the press statements from the rnc and from the gop on shutting down these primaries, and if you read them they'll say how fired up we are about trump and then they also list the presidents for other administrations and other candidates having done...

Yes, they sent out signals but in terms of reality. because this is a president who showed no interest in doing anything who would upset something to be his base support. after parkland he kind of talked about stuff and even, you know, laid into republican lawmakers for being afraid of the nra. but if it's about presidential leadership, it ain't going to happen in an election he proposes as being close. >> look at what the president said in one of his gaggles on the white house lawn last week where it was right in the aftermath of one of the latest shootings and he said, this isn't something t...