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Don't know if there's sustaining power there beyond the moment. and everyone has got a weak. i felt that biden came out of it unscathed to the degree that his strength in the black community hardens more and i think you'll see that in south carolina pools, for example. and i think more broadly speaking he affirmed and acquitted himself to the degree that a lot of the base support that's sort of in the air will go, okay, maybe this is where they need to line up. it will be interesting, the september debate will be critical to your question i think going forward. but as of last night, i think bi...

Republican elected members of congress in the united states senate, that's my gauge on where trump is with his base support. and how strong that base support is. the fact that they get off on a screed -- a racial screed that they somehow want to rush to that space and support the president and protect him tells me that his numbers are a lot stronger than a poll like that may reflect. and i think it's very dangerous for people to look at this race, even at this juncture. i'm not one to buy into elections, you know, a year and a half out. give me some time starting january and february, the numb...

Consensus it has been on this issue. >> i think that's great news and a testament to incredible work of criminal justice advocates who have been doing this work for years and years, decades and decades. and the act we finally made inroads within the republican party is a huge success and i think it's good to take a moment and celebrate that. that said, the trump administration is clearly using this as a wedge for 2020 as part of their efforts to undermine joe biden. they saw how tying hillary clinton to the 1994 crime bill which she didn't vote for and wasn't in office for ended up being a fai...

Some of that may be effective in a nor populist sense but obviously less appealing to republicans. for these candidates right now, craig, the focus i think really is on coming up with policies that will appeal to the progressive base. remember, this is a primary election. a primary electorate they're speaking to. while some of these ideas eventually they'll want to sell to a broadest audience, right now it's about getting that base support. why you're seeing warren talk about the things she's talking about in particular. >> adrian, "the washington post" reports joe biden decided to run a "camp...

>> absolutely, this is one of the run articles of fate between president trump and his base support in 2016. how many tied did we hear him say we're going to build the wall? yeah, he said mexico would pay for it. clearly they aren't. at least he can say -- first of all, he will build new wall with the money appropriated by congress and the money he will repurpose. even if he's blocked in the national emergency and he builds i think john said 77 miles of new wall, at least he can say look, i have done everything i could. i took it to congress, i vetoed when they disapproved my national emergenc...