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Challenged about president trump that it's really more fruitful i think to go look for the things that he's stated that are not lies. >> yeah. scott, do you think this -- "the new york times" report, do you think it hurts trump's image at all? >> no, i don't. i assume you mean among his base supporters or republicans. i don't think it will hurt his image. i think the republicans who support him are forward looking. they don't really care where he got his money. they know he's a rich man. they care what he's doing today. they like economic policies, his judicial selections. they like the way he...

New york times" report, do you think it hurts trump's image at all? >> no, i don't. i assume you mean among his base supporters or republicans. i don't think it will hurt his image. i think the republicans who support him are forward looking. they don't really care where he got his money. they know he's a rich man. they care what he's doing today. they like economic policies, his judicial selections. they like the way he handles the democrats, the way he handles the media. i don't think this particular story especially from this outlet which most republicans don't trust is going to shake their...

Tailing to his base supporters and so many of his tweet, the president is trying to reassure his court supporters that don mcgahn's cooperation with the special counsel is a good thing. y you also try to see him spelling the notion that don mcgahn turned on him even though the two men set to have a strange relationship. the president values don mcgahn experti expertise. 30 hours is a long time to be talking to federal investigators and some of the president's advisers are concerned that mcgahn insights may help the special counsel team fill in the gaps as they work on this probe. >> jeff benne...

Voters have known about him. to some extent, it is one more nugget. it adds to the broader picture, but does this actually hurt him in any way politically, do you think? >> i think you're exactly right. trump's base supporters, they preyed and loved on his campaign slogan, make america great again. it's tinged with racist motivations, in ways we're not talking about. i think that you make so many great points when you say that, you know, there are other pieces of evidence that show the president doesn't necessarily under race relations or care to under people who don't look like him in a meani...

Player. that was then and before the 2016 campaign when lebron came out and backed hillary clinton. do you think for the president's base supporters, lebron is going to have an impact, do you think it will be difference how they view? >> i don't think so. there is a reason why the president keeps ongoing back to these racial and cultural issues. this does resonate with those particular individuals. i think it relates to race and culture and there are a lot of issues in our country that we have to use this analogy and swept them under the rug. we know they still exist. here comes trump lifts th...