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Long, iran's look every one of these folks think they can't speak out and they don't speak out. , but it is they're not speaking out, and they're defending of donald trump after each of the indictments, it's the reason why he is gaining in popularity. because the people of the republican base trust are standing up in front of him and saying, not only did donald trump not do anything wrong, he is being attacked by the doj and he was the greatest president ever. so why would you ever expected to pick up anybody else's votes? >> do you think the fact that trump is not on the debate stage, will th...

Somebody like ron desantis who is already kind of pretending like he's going to be the guy that everybody is paying attention to. i think what it means, in the long, look every one of these folks think they can't speak out and they don't speak out. , but it is they're not speaking out, and they're defending of donald trump after each of the indictments, it's the reason why he is gaining in popularity. because the people of the republican base trust are standing up in front of him and saying, not only did donald trump not do anything wrong, he is being attacked by the doj and he was the greates...

Do you think that will actually sway some republicans in the senate to vote to remove? conversely, if he says, no, he never gave me those directions, there were all these little winks and nods but he really didn't do it, do you think there's the possibility democrats might give up impeachment? >> it's possible that one or two senators could be moved in the long run if that fact pattern were established. i do not think that the democrats are going to give up on impeachment. chris: and you don't think the senate, 20 republicans would ship and remove him. >> no, not yet. >> republicans are alread...

Sway some republicans in the senate to vote to remove? conversely, if he says, no, he never gave me those directions, there were all these little winks and nods but he really didn't do it, do you think there's the possibility democrats might give up impeachment? >> it's possible that one or two senators could be moved in the long run if that fact pattern were established. i do not think that the democrats are going to give up on impeachment. chris: and you don't think the senate, 20 republicans would ship and remove him. >> no, not yet. >> republicans are already going this week down the messa...

Sway some republicans in the senate to vote to remove? conversely, if he says, no, he never gave me those directions, there were all these little winks and nods but he really didn't do it, do you think there's the possibility democrats might give up impeachment? >> it's possible that one or two senators could be moved in the long run if that fact pattern were established. i do not think that the democrats are going to give up on impeachment. chris: and you don't think the senate, 20 republicans would ship and remove him. >> no, not yet. >> republicans are already going this week down the messa...