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He's also telling you in terms of when you say a light convoy, i think just what seems very stunning about your reporting that they were wearing t-shirts and baseball caps. that is the environment that they expected to be operating in. >> it's the environment, yes, erin, that they expected to be operating ng and it's also the posture that they would have taken this kind of environment given what was their assessment of the risk. but also because they do want to maintain a lower profile than they would in other areas. they're not dwoipg to be moving around the way that we see them in afghanista...

Being too optimistic when there's still a huge challenge on the ground. >> pictures help you understand. you see the president and first lady wearing baseball caps. you see the sba jacket, housing an urban development secretary with a hud jacket. every agency in the federal government will be challenged not only today, as far as the governor of texas. governor abbott. moving to get a briefing in corpus christi, it's just about every agency in the federal government that will have a role in this. some already responding today. some, their role doesn't kick in until it comes to rebuilding and do...

Of people who are very pro-trump and are walking around in their baseball caps with make america great again. and there are these divisions. and it's very interesting to see how that's playing out. i mean, today, i talked to a number of people who i would describe as more traditional conservatives, and one of the things they commented on is they felt like the great irony of this, is cpac is now playing host to this anti-political correctness squad. they felt like they were going around, having to be hyperpolitically correct to avoid offending the trumpites who were trying to take over the whol...

Also joining us, rick wilson, republican strategist and contributor to the daily beast. liz, as i listened to the pence speech tonight, he mentioned president trump frequently throughout the speech, but if you took out the words trump, everything about it was kind of good old-fashioned republican reaganism, all the way through, no build the wall stuff, no ban muslims, none of the modern trademarks of trumpism. >> right, and what you're going to see, this divergence between what pence said tonight and what trump is going to say, really, i think, is emblematic of the divisions you're seeing amon...

That russia was an empire, that it is still feeling the collapse of the soviet union very bitterly, very personally and that president putin sees it as his mission to reestablish russian dominance over the area that was the soviet union, including crimea, including ukraine. and that hacking is one tool it has in its arsenal and it's used in the the past quite effectively and quite in a well-documented way in europe and eastern europe and use it now to influence the u.s. election. >> perhaps they're making baseball caps with that phrase on them as we speak. richard engel early on a friday morni...