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Be with except when you crossed her and when you crossed her it wasn't fun to be with her. >> tom, what are your thoughts on that? >> my thoughts are that she -- that was the perfect recommend representation of who she is. she played by her own rules. she was much more spontaneous than the president himself. he would often say, bar, he'd kind of lean back a little bit. should beshas the enforcer in the family as the kids called her. i was witness to that on a number of occasions. last time i saw them together was at walker's point. she was very unhappy with rick perry, the governor of texas, w...