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We do have the opportunity on cable tv to tell it like it is. i think we did the right thing. >> there's still some situations where people are more comfortable using a curse word than saying something is racist. look at the broadcast networks. there was less talk about racism. >> that's interesting. one thing i do want to say is, i think that what the other thing journalists have to do is to go even deeper and point out a couple of things. not just african countries are all basket cases and all the african immigrants are here pulling america down we just shouldn't use the word shithole. afric...

In this nature. >> he talked about those nation states. if he had said these nation states are dysfunctional, failed states there would have been little room for the debate. our own state department, you talk about el salvador, our own state department advises americans not to go there. now you want to make this a trump problem when the arm of government that concerns himself with world affairs has said there are failed states. there are basket cases. there are nations that, in fact, are so in disarray that people are trying to escape and come to america. now the united states of america

Room? >> come on, look. if we move to a system like canada and australia, points based, merit based and skills based. people from norway don't want to come here. you get more south and east asians. >> they did come here when they were a basket case and moved to the midwest of the country and have contributed greatly. that is what happens. that is what happens, people come from countries, they join this country and make it greater, whatever their color. >> so many people are stuck on immigration policy, where they think it's the early 20th century forever. you can have a lot of low-skill people...

S-house is less frequently used. >> to make the point, you are not trying to say there's a difference between the two things. >> this is a vulgar way of speaking. we don't want the president of the united states to talk this way, especially if it is going to be repeated outside the room. the level of freak out goes to how the elite on the right and left of the country has got so disconnected on common sense. these countries you are referring to are basket cases. they are disaster areas. the point he was making within the context of the immigration policy discussion is we are much better off wi...

Telling us young africans are very well aware of the demographics in europe but we in europe tend to have a pretty one dimensional view of africa when we talk about these negative images of africa as a continent of hunger of despair of migration are we in the media partly responsible for the fact that this that the story is so perhaps one dimensional think hunger and disaster always sells misery you know misery is what's kind of drives people to the screen but i think in the media you should have more interviews with printers from africa whole building up businesses for example or entrepreneur...