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These are the t-72 tanks. the ukrainians want more of these. do they have enough to fight this bat lt against the russians? >> they really don't, john. this is what the key things that really needs to happen for them. the russians and ukrainians both have these tanks. the ukrainians, as you said, need more of them. the reason for this is these are tanks that are delivered to the ukrainians. they can work these without major training and ramp up very, very quickly. as a result of this, this is what they want, this is what they need. but they also have this, the javelin anti-tank guided missile ...

>> let me go to you, first, congressman. it seems the energy is not letting up, is it? >> we had with the vice president today, the police commissioners from new york city, your hometown, philadelphia, baltimore, at l t atlantic city, wilmington delaware where there was a shoot k today where three people lost their lives. flfgs a real focus and a detailed discussion in multiple hours about how we move forward and how we make sure that what we do is truly effective. i think the vice president who said that every single recommendation he's made to the president, the president has adopt ds and em...