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Bush is to blame for 9/11 or bush failed, right? that's one contention. you can debate that. you can even say no, he's not to blame. but the contention being made, the affirmative endorsement of george w. bush's legacy that's being made is he kept us safe. that is the same that has been put forward. i just don't see how that's defensible unless you count as you said when republicans tend to count at 9/12. which fine, you can say everything changed at 9/11. and after that forget about iraq -- >> you have to admit that the world changed dramatically after that. >> well, no. actually, the world d...

You don't get to do a lot of things the way -- you have a whole lot of structures put in place. >> our policy changed. >> -- that probably should have been put in place before -- >> when the bush administration came into office on january 20th when they went to that pass the baton program where the nsa chief of -- under the clinton administration passed the baton to condi rice, the clinton administration said it's non-state actors that you've got to watch out for, and condi rice came in and said we have to watch out for countries like iraq. there was a policy decision as to what was going to a...

Different contentions. bush is to blame for 9/11 or bush failed, right? that's one contention. you can debate that. you can even say no, he's not to blame. but the contention being made, the affirmative endorsement of george w. bush's legacy that's being made is he kept us safe. that is the same that has been put forward. i just don't see how that's defensible unless you count as you said when republicans tend to count at 9/12. which fine, you can say everything changed at 9/11. and after that forget about iraq -- >> you have to admit that the world changed dramatically after that. >> well, no...