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union have been taking part in a oneday strike, causing disruption to rail services across britain. now on bbc news, nick robinson in conversation with people who influence our political thinking about what has shaped theirs. hello. welcome to political thinking, a conversation with rather than an interrogation of someone who's shaped our political thinking about what has shaped theirs. my guest this week is better known, he's more trusted, he's arguably more influential than many politicians. chief executives and chancellors of the exchequer have good reason to fear what martin lewi...

when the three—storey stucture came down in the western city of espinal. colombia's president—elect has called for amateur bullfights to be banned. now on bbc news, political thinking with nick robinson. hello. welcome to political thinking, a conversation with rather than an interrogation of someone who's shaped our political thinking about what has shaped theirs. my guest this week is better known, he's more trusted, he's arguably more influential than many politicians. chief executives and chancellors of the exchequer have good reason to fear what martin lewis says. the founde...

Now is on energy bills and the poorest in society for whom there isn't much left. and it was that was that was a baton thread that was looking at the chancellor and saying, "money—saving is out. this is yourjob, mate. this is yourjob, not myjob." so that was that was not an accidental throwaway phrase. that was a deliberate, nuanced political challenge. we spoke to a former director of communications at number 10 who said martin lewis is one of the most influential people in britain. is that a label you would relish? it makes me want to vomit. yeah, because i don't think any time you think o...

That was not an accidental phrase because in the room at the same time on the sunday morning show was rishi sunak. and i looked across at him when i said it. and it was very nuanced because obviously myjob, there are many things that many people can do, but the difficulty right now is on energy bills and the poorest in society for whom there isn't much left. and it was that was that was a baton thread that was looking at the chancellor and saying, "money—saving is out. this is yourjob, mate. this is yourjob, not myjob." so that was that was not an accidental throwaway phrase. that was a deli...