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We still have coal in my state, you're going to eliminate it eventually, we know it's going away, we know it's going to be gone, but don't rush it so fast that my people don't have anything to do. i think that's not what we should be doing. but the fact of the matter is we can take that 150 billion, add it to the 320 billion that's in the law now that he's prepared to support for tax incentives. tax incentives to have people act in a way that they're going to be able to do the things that they need to do. for example, if you've got windows that are -- the wind's blowing through you get an ince...

And so there's a penalty incurred. joe manchin's argument is look, we still have coal in my state, you're going to eliminate it eventually, we know it's going away, we know it's going to be gone, but don't rush it so fast that my people don't have anything to do. i think that's not what we should be doing. but the fact of the matter is we can take that 150 billion, add it to the 320 billion that's in the law now that he's prepared to support for tax incentives. tax incentives to have people act in a way that they're going to be able to do the things that they need to do. for example, if you've...