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This afternoon. >> this is the moment he became senator joseph mccarthy. literally saying, you can't be in my country if you don't do it the way i want you to do it. it is the craziest thing. >> here to talk about whether it's all that crazy at all, john mecham. his brand new book is "the soul of america: the battle for our better angels." how is that battle going, my friend? who is winning? >> it is a pitched and difficult battle. but we're going to win the war. we're going to win the war. we always do. >> who won this battle, did this battle go to donald trump, who seems to have successfully...

I don't think people should be staying in locker rooms, but i think it's good. you have to stand proudly for the national anthem. or you shouldn't be playing. you shouldn't be there. maybe you shouldn't be in the country. >> that was the president of the united states this morning condemning peaceful silent protests by members of the nfl players, suggesting that maybe they shouldn't be in this country at all. here's what jim messina, a former obama campaign manager, said to me about those comments this afternoon. >> this is the moment he became senator joseph mccarthy. literally saying, you ca...

Together, we're building a better california. i don't think people should be staying in locker rooms, but still, i think it's good. you have to stand proudly for the national anthem. or you shouldn't be playing. you shouldn't be there. maybe you shouldn't be in the country. >> that was the president of the united states this morning condemning peaceful silent protests by members of the nfl players, suggesting that maybe they shouldn't be in this country at all. here's what jim messina, a former obama campaign manager, said to me about those comments this afternoon. >> this is the moment he b...

That somehow you think this is a conspiracy of numbers, fine. but every time we hear new numbers they're good and the cbo backs them up. listen, if you want to keep this battle going, i think without it you'll go into a -- you'll have a stroke. >> if you're a vulnerable democrat, i'll bet you my bottom buck obamacare is not going to be on one of your ads. >> the reality is, the president can come out and say 8 million people all he wants but people at home are sitting there seeing their plans canceled, their premiums increased. it really doesn't matter what he says. >> their deductibles increa...

The white house as the administration struggles to respond to the revolution in egypt, who does president obama side with? joining me now is christopher hayes, washington editor of "the nation" magazine. thanks for joining me tonight, chris. >> thanks for having me on, lawrence. >> chris, as you read the president's statement which just came out after hours of labor, certainly involving people we've just mentioned, it seems like it -- it reads like a tie between these two camps. you can feel the establishment statements in it, you can feel the trying to encourage the protesters sentiments in i...