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I think that's the important point because they don't quite certain what they hit in terms of whether or not it was chlorine and sarin. they believe both were produced there but they're not giving a clear answer on what the red line is. and you all flipped on this, is the trigger now the use of chlorine gas, chlorine plus a nerve agent. that's a key question. but that was a bit of a victory lap. they were very pleased with their operational success, but they have not totally destroyed bashar al assad's ability, capability to deliver chemical weapons in a battle space that remains very complica...

Point and moscow knows that. >> all right. thank you for that. msnbc chief international security and diplomacy analyst. he joins me now. thank you for joining us. he said in terms of impact on the ground, the impact of a potential u.s. missile strike, he thinks would be limited. probably wouldn't do much. do you agree with that? >> yes and no. if we can find ours to using unmanned tomahawk missiles, you can't create significant military affect. you could use that first wave to knock down the anti-air war fair systems of the syrians. that opens the battle space for major manned aircraft strike...

They don't tell you how long it's going to take to get there. in the past it's taken about a week. we have assets further down south at qatar, flyover rights over iraq wouldn't be too difficult. you could violate them. he talked about the f-35. that would be the first time they use the f-35 in a combat situation. they've used the f-22 which is a stealth fighter. here's the issue, though. if you send off fighters from the truman, those don't have stealth capability. and everyone here at the pentagon for the last six years has recognized syria as something called an integrated air defense. that ...

Not just the assad regime but the assistance of russians and iranians on the ground. that said, does the prosecuting -- how does that work into the prosecuting's math on how to respond? because if russians and iranians on the ground support troops get killed, that's a different thing. >> it certain lly complicates i. but at the same time there are channels of communication between the u.s. and the russians on how not to get into each other's battle space. in the eastern part of the country where both sides are fighting isis. there is this hotline. they have a dedeconfliction lin basically east...

>> our primary mission was getting rid of isis. we've almost completed task. i want to get out, bring our troops back home, i want to start rebuilding our nation. >> what do you think? >> sounds family. al qaeda is on the run and time to do nation building at hole. barack obama right before isis comes on the sxeenl roars through iraq and syria. let me give you a way that people like me think about what's going on in syria. we generally plan our operations in four phases. we deploy, we shape the battle space, we fight, that's what most people call war, and then we have a phase we call phase fou...