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-- sharpens his message against the ultra maga agenda. we'll get to the new messaging. we're also following the latest developments from ukraine. new reporting that intelligence given to ukraine by the united states has led to the deaths of many of the russian generals killed in action. senior officias told "the new york times" the assistance is part of a classified effort by the biden administration to give ukraine real-time battlefield intelligence. that includes anticipated russian troop movements based off moscow's secret battle plans in the donbas region of eastern ukraine. nbc news has...

Himself on this later today. >> yeah. there's no question, as you pointed out earlier, that this is the kind of thing that put putin can seize on to say, the americans are involved in this proxy war. what he does with the information remains to be seen. you know, the defense department has tried to point out behind the scenes a bit that they've not provided the intelligence that has gone after the leadership of russia. but the fact remains, as jeremy bash points out, this is to be expected as a part of any military aid. training ukrainian troops outside of the country and also providing battle...

Information. the united states prohibits itself from providing information about the senior most leaders. after the "times" article was published, the national security council said the battlefield intelligence was not provided to the ukrainians, quote, with the intent to kill russian generals. let's bring in executive editor for news at new yorker.com, david road. and mike barnicle joins the conversation, as well. david, i'll start with you and your reaction to this. the nsc tried to not walk back but contextualize the news from the "new york times." yes, we share intelligence. it is part of ...

Intelligence sharing sort of a part of that aid? maybe not as public, maybe not advertised as openly, but isn't that part of what the united states would be doing for ukraine? >> yes, willie. three dimensions. one is the equipment. the second is the training. increasingly, the united states and western allies are training ukrainians outside of ukraine. that's enormously significant. and the third pillar of this indirect warfare you referenced and ambassador taylor referenced is the intelligence sharing. it can be strategic, what is putin's agenda, how is he conducting the war, but also specifi...

It's certainly something we've taken note of. we have to point out we're seeing a lot of gear on this side of the russian border. the russians appear to have the capacity to escalate. certainly it does seem as though some of the gear they have here seems to be broken down and needs to be towed away. at the same time they seem to be moving rocket launchers, something closer to the battlefront in kharkiv which is a troubling sign for the folks who are up there and defending that city, jim. >> broken down or sometimes out of gas. i tell you, fred, it's remarkable. you talk about battlefield intel...